Action 2 Impact Show: What If Aging Decline Is Mostly A Myth

We talk with Elaine about trading symptom chasing for lifelong well-being built on daily choices that protect independence as we age. We dig into why “normal for your age” is a dangerous story and how simple nutrition, hydration, and authentic movement can change what aging looks like. 
• shifting the focus from studying disease to studying health and well-being 
• defining well-being as independence without a shoebox of medications 
• why blood biomarkers can create a false sense of safety 
• the coffee and tachycardia story as a root-cause lesson 
• where medications help and where they can mask the real problem 
• separating vaccines from optional lifestyle-related drug use 
• nitric oxide, endothelial function, and food-based support 
• what Elaine sees in home care that predicts mobility or decline 
• rejecting the narrative that aging must mean muscle loss 
• hospital food and the standard American diet problem 
• Elaine’s seven pillars: mindset, nutrition, movement, hydration, community, guide, consistency 
• why we should not rely on AI for health decisions 
• training movement in three planes for real life function 
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Welcome To Action To Impact

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hi there everyone, I'm Gwen Jones, and welcome to this week's Action to Impact show. I am so glad that you joined me. I introduce you to people from all over the world turning their actions into impact, and this week we're talking to my new friend Elaine about wellness. Like, how do you feel? How do you think you could feel better? And some of the 30-year experience that she's been doing to find out what makes people not feel good and what can make people feel good. And sometimes it's easier than you may think. Interested? Good. As I always say, sit back and enjoy the ride. We're gonna bring a little wellness into our lives today. And as always, I'm glad you joined us for the conversation. Welcome back to the show, everybody. Okay, so as you well know, I have spent with you guys out there in the world or in the listening world or in the blogging world quite a few shows because I turned 60. And as the recording of this show, I am now officially 60. And we've talked about longevity and we've talked about the scientific background, and we've even talked about cryonics. Look those shows up, especially the cryonic ones with Charlie. I thought it was fascinating. And we took it from very much a science base. Well, now we're gonna shake things up. We're still gonna talk a bit about longevity, but we're really gonna make it a little bit more simplified and we're gonna go off the word wellness. And that's all the kind of intrigue I'm gonna give you on the on that. But we're gonna work on the what we can work on, if that makes sense. Eileen copsoft, copsoftist. I think I did it pretty good because we had to break it down before we went on here. She's uh I was saying a wellness expert, and I've had longevity experts, and now we have a woman who is teaching us the everyday things that we can do to live a longer, better, healthier life. I think it's gonna be interesting. Here we go. Hi, Eileen. How are you?

SPEAKER_01 2:16

I am very well, thank you, and excited to be here.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Yay. Well, it's great to have you. So I I said to everybody that word wellness. Is that kind of a true statement? That instead of coming from scientific and this and that and this, we're actually gonna learn today and kind of embrace this world, this word wellness. What do you is is that a fair statement?

Stop Studying Disease Start Studying Health

SPEAKER_01 2:39

It is, and and I think I could break it down a little better because please most of the scientific world is studying disease, what goes wrong, okay. Okay, very little time is spent on what goes right. You know, let's study health. Let's study, you know, why is that happening in this person, but not in that person? And I find that there's some very definite lifestyle choices, decisions that people make that will radically impact how they age, and so that's why my business is called have lifelong well-being. Okay, because that's what we all want. We want well-being, you know, and I you know the word wellness is such a general term because it could kind of mean almost anything, and and one would say it's been manipulated lately.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

There is there's a wellness, even if even if I go to my Apple News tonight, there is a wellness section, yes, that has all kinds of stuff from the latest soft drink that has extra protein in it to what's a wellness retreat. So so maybe the word wellness is the wrong one for you.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Yeah, that's why I say well-being. Well-being, okay. Yeah, because that's what we want. So then what is well-being? Well,

Biomarkers Meds And Root Causes

SPEAKER_01 4:20

to me, it's you know, living your life, being able to do what you enjoy doing as long as you're above ground, not losing your independence, uh, not having urinary incontinence, not having a shoebox full of medications to keep you pumped every day and and and alive. And unfortunately, a lot of those medications are just medically manipulating those blood biomarkers, and so they're not really addressing the root cause of why you have those things like high blood pressure and diabetes, and they're just treating the symptoms. And there are so many things that we can do that will impact those things.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Okay, so I'm already hearing somebody in the car going, okay, that all sounds fascinating, but what's a blood biomarker? Oh, so just on that.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Well when they draw blood. Yeah, when they draw blood, they're looking at different things. Okay, looking at, you know, your inflammatory markers, they're looking at your your uh cholesterol level, right? They're they're looking at all of those different things to see what they need to medicate. Okay. But most of the time, a doctor will never ask anybody what they eat. Like they're not gonna say, you know, what's your diet? What are you eating? What are you? I know someone from years ago who was dealing with tachycardia, which is very fast heart rate. Fast heart rate, right? And he was like terrified, what's going on? What's going on? And and you know, they went to the doctor and he's telling them, Oh, we can put you on this medication and that medication and this medication. And he was like, wait a minute. And he decided to think about it, and he went home, and he realized he was drinking like two pots of coffee a day. Oh dear God. So he was so overcaffeinated, right, that his body was reacting. And you know, we had a conversation, and I said the doctor never asked you what you were eating, did he? He goes, No, he almost got angry. He goes, I just needed to stop the coffee, and I'm fine now. But he could have easily gone on two or three different medications, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:52

But that kept the coffee industry very happy with him, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

But that would have not stopped the cause of the problem. And so please, I'm sorry. Yeah, no, no, that's no fine if you have a question.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

So so then it what what intrigues me, and and of course that that immediately off the bat, you're saying, you know, we're we don't we don't go to the hospital from a nutritional point of view, we go from it from a medication point of view. It is that and and and I know you're not a member of the food and drug administration, and I'm sure if there's anybody out there in the med in the in the med administration, give me a break. I'm asking questions. But what I what I do interest is there isn't a lot of money in making a med for somebody who's healthy to stay healthy. However, there's a lot of money in well, I'll just say, well, Govi and Zet bound. And I mean, those are for supposedly the weight loss kind of thing, but there's a lot of money in fixing the problems as opposed to fixing the problems, if that makes sense. So, I mean, you're not a very healthy fan of the drug and of the drug administration of the world. Is that fair to say?

SPEAKER_01 8:22

No, I've I've done a deep dive into a lot of the most commonly prescribed medications, and unfortunately, they don't really do what people think they do. There are a lot of people who will go to the doctor and all their blood work looks great, and the doctor says, You're doing fine, keep taking your med, you're doing great. And the next day they'll drop dead of a heart attack. I mean, that happens a lot. It happened to a one of my mother's friends' relatives. He was, I don't know, 60s taking a bunch of meds. Went to the doc, told he was fine, keep doing it. The next day he was he was gone. And it happens more often than we think. And the reason for that is when you're manipulating symptoms, but you're not going after the cause, the cause like continues to happen, and it does more damage. And a lot of people don't know this, and I might get in trouble for saying this, but statins for cholesterol will lower your cholesterol. You know, they do what they're designed to do with a lot of horrible side effects like leg pain that won't go away. And I won't even go into the whole long list. But people are told that, you know, this is going to lengthen their life, it's gonna protect them from the harm of the cholesterol. And when you look at the data, there's something called absolute numbers and relative. And relative risk reduction is playing with the numbers because the real numbers show that it's really not working that well. So they flip things around, and I don't want to like make people's eyes glaze over and go into how they do that, but they manipulate the math. And so, and if so, if you see, if you're reading anything about a clinical study, if you see relative risk reduction, they've manipulated the math to make it look better than it is. And statin drugs only reduce the risk of a heart attack or stroke by less than four percent. Okay, but that's the absolute numbers, right? Relative risk is gonna say that it does much better than that, and so it's being prescribed all over. It's like Lipitor is the number one selling drug around the globe. And so people think they're protected, you know. Oh, my blood markers were great, the doc says I'm great, so they have this false sense of security, and they're not doing anything else lifestyle-wise, to address the real health issues because they think they're okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

And I and I think that's what we're what we're getting on because I know people are gonna listen to me, and and this show got started with probably 90% of my fan base being from the beloved Rotary International. That's where I started. I'm a proud Rotarian, and now that it's expanded, I have all different types of people. And the only thing I say is, you know, no, no religion and no politics are my rules because I got those from from Rotary. But

Vaccines Versus Lifestyle Drug Culture

SPEAKER_00 12:06

I can already know that those that Rotary fan base is driving in their car or watching this video going, but what about vaccination? Because if there's one thing as a Rotarian, I'm incredibly proud about is that we had started this end polio, and we have brought polio down to nearly nothing. And I and I will emphasize wild polio. Okay, that's the stuff that we cannot control. And we literally have Rotarian's time, energy, and lives getting rid of polio when you're talking about pills and lifestyle. I'm assuming you're not necessarily talking about per se vaccines like that, because that is different degenerative diseases that we don't have to experience. Okay, so so I know the person is driving their car right now, so I could okay, because there really is kind of separate things that we're talking about. Yeah, okay, all right, all right. So there's vaccines, everybody, to not get the flu, and then there's a whole bunch of drugs that we may not necessarily need to be taking. So our eyes don't water, or which is like a legit drug, you guys. You can pay a lot of money, so your eyes won't water, which I is one of my favorites, or men that your masculinity is bent the wrong way, you can take a drug for that. So that's kind of what we're talking about here.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

It's funny because the cells that line all of our blood vessels, correct, they're called endothelial cells, and they produce something called nitric oxide, which dilates the blood vessels and gives us very healthy blood pressure. We like that, you guys. Now, here's the thing endothelial dysfunction is when they've been injured and they're not producing enough nitric oxide. So that is literally cardiovascular disease. And so any man who's struggling with erectile dysfunction has cardiovascular disease, and that little purple pill they take increases the production of nitric oxide. But you can just eat some dark leafy greens with some balsamic vinegar, and it will increase your body's production of nitric oxide.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Go, guys, just think of this as the new Dr. Roots here telling you that you know, eat your veggies and you may get some more veggies, right?

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Well, there's also a lot of medications that have that side effect. How funny. And a lot of people don't realize that. Yeah. So you could be taking meds that are causing that problem. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

So, which is a totally different that might have to be another show for us, Eileen. I'm just saying, you know, who knows? Because there could be there could be a whole bunch of gentlemen now that are listening to this show going, huh? Okay. All right. So we're not necessarily talking wellness, we are talking well-being. We're talking the difference between vaccines like our polio vaccine and random drugs for things that maybe we could have fixed ourselves. And I think that's where we're really going to put you in motion of who you are and what you want to do. You're inspiring us to take a different look at how we live instead of what we're living to take in a pill form. Is that a fair statement?

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Yes, absolutely.

Lifestyle Choices That Decide Aging

SPEAKER_01 16:14

I mean, I've I've worked in pretty much every aspect of healthcare. I've done acute care hospital, I've done nursing home, I've done home care, I've done orthopedic outpatient. Now, I'm not saying I know it all, but I feel like I've seen it all. Okay. And when I would go to someone's home, and you know, they were needing a walker to get up. Right. And I would want them to do some exercise. And almost always you would get, oh, I've never exercised. I don't like exercise. And then, well, drink some water, we're gonna do some work. Oh, I don't like water, I've never drank water. And you look at their kitchen counter and it's covered with, I'll be blunt, crap. Sure. I mean, sweets and pastries, fuzzy crap, and I mean, just, you know, yeah, like the worst stuff you could ever think of putting in your body, their countertop is covered with it. And then I would go to someone else's home who was maybe the same age, maybe even older. And they were getting stronger. They, you know, maybe had a very short hospital stay for something. And their countertop had a bowl of fruit, they drank water, they've always exercised their whole life, and they're so much more mobile, they recover so much faster, and they get their life back. Now, the other person is gonna end up in a nursing home. It's inevitable because you get to the point where your family can't take care of you, especially if you're incontinent, because it's very hard to keep the skin integrity healthy, and so you could end up with you know, bacteria and infections and all kinds of things. So, you know, I've seen both sides, and lifestyle just has a huge thing, and and you know, that mainstream mantra that everybody's been listening to their whole lives, that as you get older, you're just supposed to decline, you're supposed to get weaker, yeah, you're supposed to lose muscle muscle mass, you're supposed to end up with depos disposable diapers.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

I mean, you're just supposed to end up with all this stuff, and so you start off you start off with this as this baby with needs and not being able to take care of yourself, and then that's how you end literally in diapers, yeah, with the same type of feel that that's that's your being people joke about it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

But in my book, Aging Culprits, you know, I talk about it. The jokes aren't really all that funny, right? Because it's really a decline of independence, and that's not a place anybody, I mean, nobody ever set a goal to go to a nursing home.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

No, ever.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

No. And I've worked in one for years, they don't want to be there. I mean, having to have somebody do your hygiene for you when you use the toilet. I mean, having, I mean, it's just it's just completely like life altering, right? And not in a good way. And I'm not picking on nursing homes because no, I'm necessary.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

If there's a heaven for nursing homes, they will be there for the for the men and women from all over this world that take care of us as we choose to age. Yes. And it is important, I'm gonna say that they choose people choose to age that way. Is that a fair statement?

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Well, I I don't know if it's choice or if it's they believe it's supposed to happen because they've been told it's gonna happen their whole life. So people will say, you know, oh, I'm 60, yeah, I've got joint pain. It's normal. I'm 60. You know, the doctor will say, What do you expect at your age? Yeah, okay, and that and that I've heard. So we get all this stuff like told, and after a while, we just believe it's true. Now, I run an online academy and I got a whole bunch of people in there, 60s, 70s, 80s, who've decided to reject that narrative. Okay, and they're living life large. I mean, they're able to sit down on the ground with a grandkid and get back up. They're able to hike, they're able to garden and lift that bag of garden mulch. They're able to live their lives because they're doing the right things. And the best part is the human body is so resilient that it doesn't matter where you are, you can always get better. The the muscles of the human body will get stronger when you work them properly. And that whole age-related lean muscle loss is literally a lie from the pit of hell. Because I've read through those studies, and it has nothing to do with age. Those people they studied and they they took, you know, a biopsy of their muscles and and studied the strength and everything. 12 years later, the same people they they did the same study and they lost muscle. But it also said they were sedentary. Now, if you're sitting around for 12 years, you're gonna lose muscle. Right. A 22-year-old who lays in bed for three weeks is gonna lose muscle. You're not using your body. And so your body only works according to the stress you place upon it. Yeah, you don't you don't use it, you might you don't need it. Yeah, exactly. So and and I've also seen studies where people in their 80s did not lose any muscle loss, they didn't have any muscle loss at all, but they were active and exercising. So I don't understand why we call it age related. I just want to scream every time I see that because it has nothing to do with age, it has everything to do with movement.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

So you've I mean you brought up like three or four different things that I think are really interesting. First of all, you mentioned what somebody from me calls the American sad diet, and that's the standard American diet. And if a lot of people call it the sad diet, yes, and I don't disagree with them. Now, here's the kind of an interesting thing. As you both,

Why Hospital Food Still Fails

SPEAKER_00 22:56

as we both well know, including myself and my fans, I am just recovering from brain surgery where I was in a hospital for six days. I hated it. I hated it. Okay. I hated being in it, not because they were taking my blood pressure like every couple of hours. That's important. They wanted to make sure that the work they had done on this noggin was working. That part I had no problem with. What was amazing to me was what they gave me to eat. Now, there's a long history of, and I was under anesthesia for 12 hours, which meant my palate was already kind of weird as it is. But they said I could have whatever I want, and what it what they offered to me was jello, macaroni and cheese, like so many flavored yogurts with lots of sugar in them, ice cream, and I and I am a huge veggie fan and garden. And even though things were tasting funny because of the anesthesia, my mind was going, This is crappy. And I'm in a hospital, and I couldn't, for no better words, wrap my head around it. But here I was at this hospital with these absolutely amazing surgeons that had literally saved my life. And what the hospital was offering me was a walker and macaroni and cheese and pudding. And it just kind of blew my mind. Is this that's why I go back to your question is is this kind of a personal responsibility thing? Because they just saved my life, they just fixed my head, but they're already starting me immediately on the standard American diet, which is a lot of sugar, a lot of large words that I don't know. And it it actually kind of shocked me. 48 hours later, would you like some pudding?

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Yeah, well, you know, my dad was in the hospital and he had a stent put in because he'd had like two heart attacks in 24 hours. Wow. And so I went to visit him, and this slip on his meal tray said heart healthy diet. Okay, I'm ready. It was it was a sandwich loaded with mayo. I think it might have been chicken salad or something. Okay, and there were extra packets of mayo on the side.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Now, I've seen the mayo industry another time was something loaded with gravy, okay, but it's heart healthy. There was there anything green on the tray, even like a decoration on the no, so you get what I'm going after that it was Oh, absolutely, absolutely, because without a doubt, these were some of the most amazing physicians. I owe them my life, absolutely. They're actually going to be on the show, which is a little tease for my audience, but it was quite fascinating that there is this relationship of somebody like you and others that are saying we need to work on our well-being, we need that personal responsibility for those leafy greens, gentlemen, for all that kind of stuff, and yet we have to all coexist in this hospital or and or healthcare industry that is not necessarily on our side. I mean, those are my words. Is that a true statement?

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Would you agree with those with that? Absolutely. I remember I lost a brother at 42 to cancer, and I remember being in his hospital room. He had gotten where he couldn't really eat and he was lost a great deal of weight. And so they were trying to do IV nutrition, but they couldn't because his veins were just gone at that point. Right. And I remember his oncologist coming in the room and saying, you just need to get calories. I don't care if you eat a thousand Hershey's kisses a day, you just need to get calories. Now, as far as I know, sugar kind of feeds cancer. Yes, so to tell somebody who's battling cancer to eat Hershey's kisses. And of course, my mom, who didn't want to lose her only son, and you know, if a doctor told her to stand on her head and spit nickels, she would because the doctor knows everything. And so now she's bringing in bags of candy for my brother to eat, you know, and it was it was heartbreaking because I knew there was nothing I could say or do that would change the situation, but it it's the the lack of understanding of nutrition in the medical field is dismal.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

So dismal. So before I actually get to how everybody every day can start a well-being type life, the other question I need to ask you is, and I'll I'll explain myself a little bit. Is it's like for some people, is it just too little too late to hear from somebody like you? And the reason why I say this is that I was in a room with another woman next to me in a bed, and I would argue that she was almost enjoying her time at the hospital. She had people coming in and saying hi to her like every couple of hours. She got anything she wanted any time of day in the middle of the night. If she wanted a hot fudge Sunday, it would come. By the way, Brigands and Women's Hospital, awesome hospital. Thank you again for saving my life. But said, I'm asking you about us as people. Do we instead of the whole wellness thing, are there just some of us that are pretty excited about growing older and getting people to just take care of us and be the queen and kings of the area because we're sick now, we're old now. Pay attention to me.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Well, that could certainly be one aspect of someone's personality, okay, and and you know, fulfill their needs because they weren't being fulfilled some other way. Absolutely. But okay, I believe from what I've seen, most people don't want to be there.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Okay. And don't we don't we really don't want to get old and fall apart.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

No, exactly. And you know, the longevity world is a billion-dollar industry, and they're working on all kinds of pills and potions and whatever that they can sell at an exorbitant fee and you know, help us feel like, oh, I'm doing something, you know, it's good for me. I just need to pop this pill and I'll be younger, you know. But I I believe that there's it's there's some very simple strategies that people can do. And

Seven Pillars From Mindset To Consistency

SPEAKER_01 31:00

I kind of call it my seven pillars of lifelong well-being.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Oh, I thought you said pills. I'm like, wait a second, we've been talking the last half an hour about no pills. Pillars, pillars, you know, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Yeah, gotcha. And uh like the Grecian columns, you know.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

There you go. And this is what this is what people so if they where they want to start tomorrow after listening to this podcast, this could be this is the seven steps that could yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

And if they go to my website, the academy, it's hlwacademy.com, they can access these. Okay. But the first one is mindset. Gotcha. If you believe you're gonna decline, if you believe you're just gonna go downhill, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

There you go. Thanks for coming on the show. We're done.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Yeah, but if you believe that you don't need to accept that and you can do something to improve your life as you age, you're right. So, mindset is very, very important. You've got to understand the truth, right? I mean, on a cellular level, the body really isn't designed to decline. So it really has to do with what are feeding our bodies? Are we hydrating well? Are we moving? And you know, those are the other pillars, right? Nutrition, movement, hydration. A lot of people do not drink enough water, and you're in a perpetual state of dehydration, and a lot of that has to do with the fact, well, it makes me go to the bathroom. And I say, Well, that's how it works water in, water out. I mean, but you've got to get the water in, you know, and and then a big one is community because a lot of us are kind of like separated. If we decide we're gonna reject the narrative, and everybody's telling us, oh no, you know, at your age, you're gonna do oh, that's normal, that's natural. Just wait. You know, I had a guy that I spoke with on a podcast, he was 35, and he said, When I turned 30, all my friends said it's downhill from here. Oh, 30 and flabbergasted. So, so you're gonna have trouble finding people that might be okay with you rejecting the narrative, you know, because you're not gonna want to listen to their stories about all their meds and their symptoms and their doctor appointments, and their that kind of becomes who they are after a while. It's like their identity, and so it might be a struggle. So finding a like-minded community is huge, it's very, very helpful. And then, you know, you wouldn't go down the Amazon without a guide, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:08

So we're not talking about the store there, you guys.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Right. Oh, yeah, sorry, not the store, the Amazon River, you know, and because it's kind of dangerous, you would want a guide, and so sometimes you need somebody to learn from, to teach you. And I'm highly like foaming at the mouth against using AI for anything health regular, anything health related, anything. There are so many mistakes that AI does. Oh my gosh, they did a study where they they put in these symptoms, and one answer said, go to the ER right away, which was the correct answer, because the person was gonna die if they didn't, based on this the symptom profile. And then another AI said, go lay down in a dark room. So we can't trust it. It's not a human being, it's not gonna look at you, it's not gonna observe you, it's not gonna say, you know, oh my gosh, your ankle's unstable, that's why your shoulder's not working right. It's not gonna know any of that. It's it's useless to really help people. You need a real person who's got a long-standing record of helping people and being good at what they do, and and that matters more than anything. So having a guide can be important. And then the last pillar is consistency. Because a lot of the times people start off, you know, like the weekend warrior. Oh, I'm gonna do this, and they just kill themselves for two days. I think they call that January 2nd. Yeah. And then they can't move, right? For about a week. Yeah, they hurt themselves, they're like, see, I can't work out, I can't get in shape. Look what happens. Right. So you've got to start where you're at. You have to start with the smallest movements ever. I actually have a free workout with an assessment that you can do to see your three-plane ability for your body to move. And you can kind of find the cause of things. Because a lot of the times, if your knee hurts, it's not your knee. It's your ankle or your hip. Gotcha. Okay. So a lot of the times if your low back hurts, it's not your low back. It's your trunk that's not moving right, or your hips are not strong enough. So it's that that test that I have, it's all free. It's a 23-minute video. You can assess your body's movement, and then there's a workout class that introduces people to how to move in three planes of motion and how to modify. And I've had people get out of pain just from doing that movement class.

SPEAKER_00 37:11

So it's interesting that you didn't say a workout, you said a movement class. So is there is there definitely more of a difference? I mean, I'm not a I I I myself, I choose yoga and walking are my ways of going. I have not been able to work out as much because it does add pressure to the head. I've been told to sit on my tukas, and it's very upsetting, but that's okay. It's another another show. But you're

Movement Training For Real Life

SPEAKER_00 37:42

really emphasizing this, you're not telling everybody to go hit a bicycle and do 15 miles tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

You're saying just move it, get it going, get it circulated, and you need to be doing the right kind of movement the right way, because the fitness industry is just repeating what they've learned over the decades. And unfortunately, and this is gonna sound a little tongue-in-cheek, but they're training you like a dead person. Okay, explain because we learned anatomy from a dead person. True. And since a dead person isn't moving, we didn't really learn anatomy. Because the way the muscles function when you're up and moving is very different than the way we think they function. And so I'll explain that in a like a simple way. So hamstrings, right? People want to make their hamstrings stronger. Correct. So they go to the gym and they get on one of those machines and they push their foot against resistance up toward their butt. Now it will make the hamstrings stronger, but I want to ask you, Gwen, and anybody in your audience, is there any movement in real life or even sports where you would push your foot up against resistance toward your butt? Well, there's rowing, there's walking, there's okay, you tell me. But you're not pushing your foot against resistance that's true, repetitively toward your butt.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

Okay, so no, I would say that I can't think of, and I'm a huge international football fan, so better known as soccer here in the States, and they are constantly hurting themselves in that area. But no, okay, yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Yeah, and there's lots of other things we do that are very similar because somebody decided when they were looking at a cadaver, a dead person, that oh, the hamstring attaches here and it attaches here. And so when it shortens, the knee bends. So that must be how it performs, which it does. I mean, you can stand and put your foot up against your butt if you've got the knee range of motion to do that, and but it's not how we use the hamstrings. Gotcha. How we use the hamstrings is to get them longer under tension, not shorten them, get them longer. When you go to sit down in a chair, your hamstrings are getting longer to control your descent. Gotcha. Okay. When you go to squat down, your hamstrings are getting longer to control your descent. Now, yes, there's a lot of other muscles involved. It's not just your hamstrings, you got your glutes, you know, gluteus maximus. I call them better known as your butt. Max is your power source. You've got to have a strong max. If you've got a pancake butt, you've got to work on max. Okay. But but it's just, you know, one explanation of how we do exercises that are not authentic to human function. And so we need to be doing movements that the body actually recognizes as authentic. Gotcha. So that's what I train people in. I train them in how to restore authentic movement in three planes of motion. Because we have, you know, we move forward and back, we move sideways, and we rotate. And most people only train in that forward and back motion. And yet everything we do, including walking, uses all three planes of motion. Because your hip is going a little bit out to the side, right? You're rotating. I mean, all of these things are happening, and we're not training our bodies that way. So, I mean, I could go on and on and on, but I think I hopefully I hopefully made my point.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Yeah, no, I think you did. So, like I said, we've worked with, we've had authors on and speakers about the longevity, which you have a different opinion about, and AI, which you have a different opinion about, but that's okay. That's that's your right. But and and I'm not sure if you're a cryonics fan, doesn't sound like it, but that's okay. I have to say, as somebody who's interested in all those other aspects, what you're also saying here can be included. So we're not, I think it's pretty safe to say that you individually may not want cryonics or some of the stuff that the longevity people are doing. But what you're saying is, but what this stuff can do can maybe even help that other stuff. And it sounds like you've kind of expanded off what's probably known as the blue zone area. So if we know about blue zones, which are different areas here in the world, where to find people that live to be a hundred years old or more, are quite common, and they have in in common with what Aline is saying is movement, is eating better, is community. But what you want to add is that consistency, and you want to add that mindset, and I think those aren't Necessarily talked about when the blue zone facts, I should say, or reports came out all those years ago. So if we just take it to mindset and consistency, those two individual things. Your one of your last questions from me here is what are those two particular pillars? What are they going to do to that active ethos that we've already been, you know, maybe introduced to? That how are those two things going to really push them over the edge and have you live pain-free longer getting off those drugs, getting off of those, or the the drugs that are absolutely add-ons. What are those two things really doing to really smash and explode that other group of five? What are those two things particularly really?

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Well, I think the mindset is very powerful because if you don't reject the narrative, you're not going to believe you can do it. Okay. So that belief system is very important. I know I can do this. I know it's possible.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

So it's really a belief in yourself. Is that mindset a belief in your own your own integrity and your own possibility? Yes. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

And then the consistency is, you know, do something every day that is good for you. I mean, don't, you know. Simple, Elaine, just don't. I mean, oh, I worked out really hard on the weekend, so I'm not going to do anything for two weeks, you know. It's that consistency that even it's just a tiny step. I mean, doing five minutes of movement can make a difference, especially if you're sitting all day. You can just stand up and do a simple hip matrix where your hips swing forward and back, side to side, and rotate. And you do that every couple hours, your back is going to feel fabulous. Wow. Just those simple things. Your body thrives on movement. It's designed to move. So it doesn't have to be a three-hour, you know, training in the gym. It can be very, very simple. With a sporting outfit. Add more plants to your diet. Right. More vegetables, more greens, more fruits, and drink water. Drink water. Make sure you're hydrating your body properly. Muscles are 78% water.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

And your head and your brain is even more than that. So I had a doctor that was just like water, water, water as she as she drinks from her water glass as we wrap things up. Elaine,

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SPEAKER_00 46:55

I hope you've inspired some people out there because I insist you do a self-plug. You wouldn't be on the show if people, so let's say somebody's like, okay, I could be consistent. I could set my mind. I know a few of these other techniques. I could start tomorrow, but I'd love some help. Where, for instance, can we get some of those actual free?

SPEAKER_01 47:22

Yeah, so I have an online private club. It's called MWP Private Club for Move Without Pain. And it has that free membership that you can sign up for, which has a lot of benefits. It has the video to assess yourself, it has the movement education piece, and it has some what I call a geek corner.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

I do love a good geek corner. Okay, good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

I I'm a geek, I admit it. And so, you know, well, geeks run the world now, right?

SPEAKER_00 48:00

So they do, they do, they've gone from the weird kids that people threw in the spaghetti again on spaghetti day to running the world.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

So exactly. But that's the best place. And if they want the seven pillars, that's at the academy.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Yeah. So you got to do your homework if you want the seven pillars. Awesome. Aline, thank you first of all for coming out and introducing yourself to me. I mean, I say to people all the time, if they know somebody who they think is shaking and moving and turning their actions into impact, let me know. And you actually did that. So you are the proof of concept. Uh, you're on the show. And I think it's really important that Aline said to everybody that this is up to you. We're gonna give you ideas. That's what this whole show is for, is to give ideas. But uh Aline's not gonna cost you anything to at least figure out what's going on with you, and from there, maybe set your mind to it. Is that a fair thing to say? Absolutely. Any last words, ma'am?

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Um I think the most important thing for people to understand is that everything's connected to everything else. You're not a body part, so you don't want to have to play whack-a-mole. Oh, let me treat my shoulder, let me treat my knee, let me treat my back. If you're doing the right movements the right way, it will address almost everything. So everything's connected. And if if you go to somebody for help and they only see you as a knee that walks in the door, they're gonna be limited in how much they can help you. They have to understand the connections.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Wow. Understand the connections. Eileen, thank you so much. It's been an absolute pleasure to meet you and to hear all these ideas. I like them. I'll check, I'll I'll come over to the website, check it out. All right. Everything's connected. Everything's connected. Your wellness is a personal project. Just some of the things that we've talked about today. What do you think? Now, this is kind of the conclusion to some of my amazing shows I've had that started with cryonics and moved to the spirituality of longevity and now has kind of left us on the positive note of sometimes it's up to you. And Aline is willing to like guide you, but everything's connected. Cool, huh? So, hey, are you a do you know somebody that I should know that should come on the show? Uh, you know, gosh, that almost sounded like it rhymed. Rotarianpod at gmail.com. And if you'd like the show to hit the road, again, same email, rotarianpod at gmail.com. And last but not least, this show is made possible because of people like you. That's right. If you'd like to sponsor the show andor be an advertiser on our show, Third Time's a charm, RotarianPod at gmail.com. I do all those things for your benefit. So, hey, that was fun. That was fun, and next week it even gets more fun. So I hope you join me. Until then, take care of yourself and the world around you, and we'll hear you next time right here on the Action the Impact Show. Have a great week, everybody.